Franz or Hans Heinrich???

I have heard that when John Neff III went to Pennsylvania on a mission, he collected family records, visited cemeteries and gathered information on his family line. When he put his pedigree together, it went something like this:

John Neff III born 28 Dec 1837 in Lancaster, PA son of
John Neff Jr born 19 Sep 1794 in Lancaster, PA,
our pioneer ancestor, married Mary Barr, son of
John Neff Sr born 1 Jan 1769 in Lancaster, PA,
married Barbara Herr, son of
Reverend Jacob Neff born either 16 Feb 1724 or
8 Feb 1727 in Germantown, PA, married Anna Brackbill, son of
Dr Hans Heinrich Neff born about 1684 in Germany
or Switzerland, married Franca and unknown spouse.

We have documents showing that he is correct about his father, grandfather, and great grandfather. We have not found documents proving Dr Hans Heinrich Neff is his great great grandfather.

After a lot of research, by a several of people here, in Pennsylvania and in Germany, we are quite sure Jacob is the son of Dr Franz or Francis Neff not Dr Hans Heinrich Neff. In order to explain, I will write out how the family should look and then quote liberally from the April 1984 article on pages 68 - 72 of the Mennonite Family History Magazine. Please understand, we do not have enough records to be 100% sure that this is how it is. And it doesn’t matter so much anyway, since the temple work has been done both ways and it is very likely that Dr Hans Heinrich Neff and Dr Franz Neff are brothers.

1 -Franz or Francis Neff - b (born) abt 1685 in Germany or Switzerland, d (died) abt 1739 in Pennsylvania (Numbers will help with the explanation. Franz is (1), his children are (1 plus their place number in the family). So (11) means first child of (1) Franz. We will give Hans Heinrich (2) and his children (21), (22) etc.)
m (Married) - Barbara Eby if Michelfeld, Germany 22 April 1710 in Duhren, Germany
11 - Francis Neff b abt 1711 Germany
12 - Magdalena Neff b abt 1713 Germany d Dec 1793 Lancaster, PA
m 1 - 17 Oct 1733 Samuel Miller (b 21 Jan 1711 d 4 Nov 1739)
m 2 - John Shantz (d 1776)
13 - Henry Neff b abt 1715 Germany d 1755 Lancaster, PA
m 1 - Dill or Diller
m 2 - Mary Shantz
14 - Margaret Neff b abt 1718 d Apr 1782 Lancaster, PA
m - abt 1740 Martin Miller (b abt 1713 d Mar 1773 Lancaster, PA)
15 - Esther Neff b abt 1724 d abt 1750 Lancaster, PA
m - John Herr
16 - Jacob Neff b 8 Feb 1727 or 16 Feb 1724 Lancaster, PA d 16 Feb 1814 Lancaster, PA
17 - Catherine Neff b 5 Jul 1729 Lancaster, PA d 5 Dec 1802 Lancaster, PA
m - Jacob Kendig or Kendrick (d 1814)
18 - Elizabeth Neff b abt 1731 d abt 1787
m - Martin Kendig or Kendrick (d 1785)
2 -Dr Hans Heinrich Neff b abt 1684 d Apr 1745
m - twice, one wife was Franca ?
21 - Hans Heinrich Neff Jr b abt 1708 Bonfield, Germany d July 1784 Shenandoah County, VA
m - Ann
22 - Hans or John Jacob Neff b abt 1709 Bonfield, Germany d I Feb 1717 Bonfield, Germany
23 - Catherine Neff b 15 May 1711 Bonfield, Germany d 26 Mar 1789
24 - dau ?
25 - Dr Abraham Neff b abt 1719 d abt 1793
m - Mary Hershey (b abt 1721 d abt 1799)

THE FAMILY OF DR. FRANCIS NEFF

The parish records of Duhren, Germany show that Dr Franz Neff (1) married Barbara Eby, 22 April 1710. Additional records have been found showing that Dr Franz and Barbara and their children prepared to come to America in the spring of 1719. The Neff News, May 2005 Issue, has a detailed list of the things Franz sold and the things he brought with him covering pages 5 to 22. The next Issue of the Neff News, May 2006, goes into great detail about the time Franz Neff spent in Germantown, PA.

Back to the April 1984 article on pages 68 - 72 of the Mennonite Family History Magazine.

“Dr. Francis Neff(1) died intestate in Feb. 1739. The court appointed Thomas Cookson administrator, who reported to court that there were insufficient funds to pay all bills and support the minor children. The court then ordered his land to be sold and payment made. The land in Lancaster Twp. on the west side of the Conestoga Creek with the "grist mill or corn mill" was sold to Ludwig Stone and land on the east side of the Creek in Lampeter Twp. was sold to Michael Beyerly.

“No list of children is given in the estate, but the family is pieced together as follows: Francis Neff Jr. (11), Henry Neff (13), and Martin Miller (14) along with other creditors received money in the final settlement of the estate in 1741. Francis Neff Jr. (11) was a son. He signed as a witness to a deed in 1740 for Martin Miller (14) when Martin bought land from his father, Jacob Miller.

“When Martin Miller died in 1773, he named "my brothers-in-law Jacob Neff (16) and Jacob Kendig (17)" executors. Martin's wife, Margaret Neff (14), died in 1782 and named "my brother Jacob Neff (16)" executor. Magdalena (Neff-Miller) Shantz (12) died in 1793/94. In her will she named "my brother Jacob Neff (16)" executor, and willed him a third of the estate; another third to "my sister Catherine Kendig (17) wife of Jacob Kendig/Kendrick"; and the final third to Martin, Elizabeth, David, and Francis Kendig/ Kendrick, children of "my sister Elizabeth Kendig, wife of Martin Kendig."

“Jacob Neff (16) in his will mentioned the land he received from "my sister Magdalena Schantz." Henry Neff (13) in his will named "my beloved brother Jacob Neave/Neff (16) and my brother-in-law John Huber" executors. The proof of Esther Neff (15) belonging to this family rests on two facts. Her second son was named Francis and her husband, John Herr, was executor for John Schantz, the second husband of Magdalena Neff (12).

“Another person who might belong to this family was the wife of John Huber, whom Henry Neff (13) called "my brother-in-law." This John Huber bought land in Strasburg Township on May 28, 1748 (Deed D, p. 450). Neither of Henry's (13) wives was a Huber. But John Huber's wife might have been a sister to one of Henry Neff's(13) wives. Therefore, she is not listed in the above listings.

“The name of Francis Neff (11) appears in several Lancaster records, but none shows a wife and family. His birth year is uncertain. If he were 21 when he signed the naturalization list of 1729, he was born as early as 1708. But all men 16 years and older had to sign the ship list and Oath of Allegiance when entering Pennsylvania. If this "16 years old" rule applied to the naturalization list of 1729, then Francis (11) could have been born as late as 1713. This writer favors the 1711-1713 birth date because his father was married to Barbara Eby in 1710. This was a second marriage, if Francis Jr. was born before 1710. However, no records even hint at a second marriage. All children of Francis Neff (1) appear to have been full brothers and sisters, their mother, Barbara, seems to have died between 1735 and 1739. Then Magdalena (Neff-Miller) Schantz (12) raised the younger children in her home, and named them her heirs in her will.

“The family of Henry Neff (13) may not be complete. He died between June 5, 1755, the date of his will, and July 4, 1755, the date his will was probated. Henry's will names his second wife, Mary, and indicates two sets of children, one set with a mother whose maiden name Dill or Diller (name not clear) and the other set a Shantz. Peter, the only child named in the will, was, no doubt, the eldest son, but not necessarily the oldest child. The unnamed sisters may have been older...”

“THE FAMILY OF DR. HANS HEINRICH NEFF

“The will of Dr. Hans Henry Neff (2) shows that he was married twice. The first wife was the mother of his children. Two sons and two daughters and their step-mother survived him. Abraham (25), the only child mentioned by name in the will, received the plantation of 150 acres and was to pay his brother, sisters, and step-mother 15 pounds (English money) per year until all shared equally. He signed the will "Henrich Neife", but the probate proceedings also used the name Hans Heinrich Neff. The will appointed no executor, so the court appointed Abraham Neff (25)...

“Deed A35 names one of his wives as Franca. Deed B301 gives the number of his living children as four, two sons Henry(21) eldest, and Abraham(25), and two unnamed daughters. The Bonfield Church records show a son, Joh. Jacob(22) who died Feb. 1, 1717, at age seven. There might have been other children who died young.

“Henry Neff (21), the eldest son as given in Deed B301, was better known as Hans Heinrich Neff, Jr.(21) as given in the 1729 naturalization list. He continued to use this name when he moved south to Virginia where his name appears as early as 1747 in the court records of Augusta Co., Virginia, now Shenandoah County. There he served as the doctor in the Mennonite community transplanted from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

“The children listed under (21) may not be in chronological order. In John Henry's (21) will, both daughters are listed last, but Catherine (212) is listed second in the will of her brother Abraham (216). Elizabeth (217) predeceased Abraham without issue and so was not listed in Abraham's (216) will.

“The witnesses to the will of Dr. John Henry Neff (21) were Adam Neff (2114), Aaron Solomon, John Miller (2113), and Margaret Gabriel (2112).

“Unfortunately, the names of the two daughters of Dr. Hans Heinrich Neff (2) were not given in his will or court proceeding. One might have been Catherine (23), wife of Michael Pfautz. She is placed in the above listing by the process of elimination. She could not be Dr. Francis Neff's (1) daughter, as his daughter Catherine (17), was the first wife of Jacob Kendig, and she was not the daughter of Henry and Barbara Neff of Hempfield Township. Her birthday, May 14, 1711, fits well into known records of Dr. Hans Heinrich Neff's family. However, another possibility is that she arrived in this country as the wife of Michael Pfautz.

“Dr. Abraham Neff (25) appears to have died in 1793. In that year there was a sheriff's sale of his property to Christopher Marshall of Philadelphia, Pa., to pay the debts of his estate, but no record of the estate settlement has been found. The only known children were: Dr. Christian (251), Esther (252), and Maria (253). The Brenneman History on page 370 gives Esther's father as Joseph Neff. But, there is no record of any Joseph Neff in that period of history and Dr. Abraham Neff (25) was the executor for the estate for Adam Brenneman. Further, the History of Lancaster County on pages 247 and 248 states that both doctors named Abraham Brenneman (2523 and 2532) were nephews of Dr. Christian Neff (251) and both studied medicine under him. Dr. Abraham Brenneman (2523) practiced "physics and surgery" and Dr. Abraham Brenneman (2532) was known as "the water doctor" because he was among the first in Lancaster to use urine analysis to diagnose the illness of his patients.

“BIBLIOGRAPHY

“”Best, Jane Evans, "Three Bears of Earl Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, and other Bears," Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Vol. IV, No. 4, pp. 12-27. (BR)

“Brubaker, Jacob N. The Brubaker Genealogy, Elkhart, Ind., 1884. (BK)

“Gerberich, Albert H. The Brenneman History, Scottdale, Pa., 1938. (BM)

“Herr, Theodore W. The Genealogical Record of Rev. Hans Herr and His Lineal Descendants. Lancaster, Pa., 1908. (HR)

“Kauffman, Charles F. The Kauffman-Coffman Lineage. Reprint, 1980. (KCL)

“Neff, Elmer Ellsworth. Genealogy of the Neff Family, 1931. (NF)"

Page 71 and 72 April 1984 Mennonite Family History

2008 Neff Family Reunion Report

John Neff Family Organization 2008 Reunion and Meeting
September 19, 2008
Brighton Stake Center, 2895 East Creek Road, Cottonwood Heights, Utah
Dinner at 6 p.m., bring your own picnic
Family Meeting 7:30 in the Relief Society Room
Alice Neff, president
832 East Grenoble, Midvale, Utah 84047
801-255-1617
neff1617@comcast.net
JohnNeffFamily.blogspot.com

Thanks to all who attended the John Neff Family Reunion September 19th at the Brighton Stake Center. I am so sorry I transposed the address numbers and sent everyone on a wild-goose chase. I was delighted that so many Neffs found us. Because of the problem, we started a little late. We had copies of some of the old “Neff Times” that we were able to sell. We made enough from the sales to pay for the lemonade and cookies. Some of the cousins updated addresses and we visited for a while.

At 7:30 the adults moved into the Relief Society Room for a meeting while the children remained outside with Steve, Corey, Dave and Jamie Neff and Sandy Pick, for games and activities.

I took charge of the meeting, thanking those who helped make the reunion happen; MarShan and Virginia Nelson, Becky Rosander, Cherry Oldroyd, Natalie Brinton, Elwood, Ted and Bob Neff and the crew outside with the children.

My friend Sidney Wells presented information on using Y-Chromosome DNA to prove relationships of males to their male ancestors. I then told a bit about the Neff DNA test. We then explained a little about the newFamilySearch Internet Site the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is developing and asked for assistance from the family in updating the system, with your children, parents, aunts, uncles and cousins information and leaving the problems of the John Neff, Mary Barr, John Neff senior, Jacob Neff and Franz Neff to the family organization to straighten out.

Please read these two reports below.

We have additional back issues of the old “Neff Times” and the printed picture of John Neff and Mary Barr. Each of these is available for $3 plus $1 shipping for each 3 ordered. Some of the back issues are not available, they would have to be reprinted or copied. I would like help scanning or typing the histories contained in the “Neff Times” to this blog. Here are the issues that are available:
Franklin Neff Fall 1996
Amos Herr Neff Winter 1997
Reunion issue, no histories Spring 1997
Amos Herr Neff, continued Fall 1997
Mary Ann Neff Rockwell Spring 1998
Susannah Neff Peirce Booth Summer 1998
Benjamin Barr Neff Spring 1999
John Neff III Summer 1999

There are no back issues available for:
Mary Barr Neff Spring 1995
John Neff II Summer 1995
Elizabeth Neff Stillman Fall 1999
John Neff Story Spring 2000

We had began with Mary Barr and John Neff II because they are the parents of this wonderful family that all joined the church and came west. It is amazing to me that teenage and young adult children would all choose to follow their parents, leaving their wealth behind, to worship God in a new way. The John Neff Story that we began in 2000 should have had 1 or 2 more installments. We were repeating the information researched by Bill Neff and John Murray of the Neff Family Historical Society in Pennsylvania. They presented their research in the “NEFF NEWS” September 1996, February 1997 and May 1997 issues.

The above back issues of the “NEFF NEWS” are available from the Neff Family Historical Society, P. O. Box 6664, Harrisburg, PA 17112-0664, neffnews@ix.netcom.com. Also, you may be interested in the last two issues of the “NEFF NEWS”, May 2005 and May 2006 which cover some history of Franz Neff, our immigrant ancestor, what he brought with him to the US and settling in Germantown. Back Issues are $5, postage included.

Please call or send names and addresses of family members to update our mailing list. Also, we would like to update our family history information. We have many descendants of John Neff and Mary Barr in our database but new babies are born every day, marriages and deaths happen about as fast. I keep the information in my computer. It is not available on the Internet nor will it ever be. I am aware of the dangers of letting personal information out into the public. Having the information on my computer helps us track the family address list and helps me identify who I am talking to when you call. It will never be all up to date, but with your help it can continue to be a useful resource.

Additional information on the Neff family can be found on the NFHS website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~neff/ . Your cousin John Fisher has
http://www.eternal-links.net/Family_History/ngf/11/2/history/John%20Neff%20II.html which is a history of John Neff and Mary Barr.

NEFF DNA Project

John Neff Family Organization

DNA Report by Alice Neff

The Neff Family Historical Society has been doing a DNA study through Family Tree DNA, http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Neff click on “Y results”, on the International Neff Family. My husband submitted a sample of his DNA on behalf of the John Neff Family. The John Neff Family Organization paid for a DNA test for Hanns Naef, a descendant of Rudolf Näf, Adam’s brother, when none of Adam’s descendants would agree to the test. It is a match.

As a family we have never been able to trace our ancestry beyond the father of Dr. Franz Neff, Dr. Hans Heinrich Neff of Duhren, Germany. We have long felt we were descended from the Adam Näf who is a hero of the 1531 Kappel War. Some of us have been to the Näfenhaus in Kappel, Switzerland. I have met descendants of Adam Näf and was astonished by the similarities between them and my husband’s uncles.

We have much of the research done on Kappel Näfs.  For hundreds of years they lived in this little farming village in the Albis Mountains southwest of Zurich. The Battle of Kappel in 1531 was a fight between the Catholic Church and the Canton of Zurich, which wanted to reform the church. Each side had a standard or banner. To win the battle, all the other side had to do was bring down the standard, which often meant killing the standard bearer. Adam Näf was a guard. When the enemy attempted to wrest the banner from the standard bearer Adam swung his broad sword, severing the head of the enemy. The banner was saved. Zurich won the battle. Adam’s father Hans Näf died in that battle, 11 Oct 1531. Ulrich Zwingli, the leader of the reform movement in Switzerland, was injured, captured and, because he would not renounce his faith, killed, quartered and burned. Because of the heroic effort on his part, Adam Näf was honored for the rest of his live. He was given citizenship in Zurich in 1533. In 1550 he and each of his children were given a home in Kappel.

Our records going back and many of the records of the Näfs of Kappel were lost during the 1600's. The Näfs, and many others from Switzerland, felt the Reformed or Protestant Churches didn’t go far enough in trying to teach the correct principles Jesus had taught. They felt infant baptism was wrong and they could not get Zwingli or Martin Luther to go that far. So they became part of the Anabaptist movement, lead by Menno Simons (1496-1561) and Jacob Amman (founder of the Amish Religion). Anabaptists were hunted and persecuted by both Catholics and Reformers. To have your name on a list of Anabaptists was a death sentence. They were often married in the Reformed Church, so it would be recognized by the state, but they were not christened nor could they be buried in a Church Cemetery. Anabaptists from Switzerland were often exiled to Germany, their lands and property taken, they were imprisoned, beaten, and killed for their beliefs.

Records have not yet been found to link us to the Adam Näf Family. However, the DNA test has proven that you are part of these courageous folks. You are descended from heros, not just Adam, but all those who gave their lives trying to live the principles they believed in.

To find out more about the DNA study, go to www.familytreedna.com/public/neff and go to Y Results. You will be able to see the markers for different individuals, identified by the Letter given the different families by John Murray and Bill Neff of the Neff Family Historical Society and a brief description. If you need it, the kit number is 59870 and the password E4816. Our John Neff, the miller who settled in East Millcreek, line is # 13, identified as “A1 line, Germany, Baden, Duhren c. 1685".

Two (2) John Neffs

New FamilySearch and 2 John Neffs
by Alice Neff

Sidney Wells, a friend of mine, introduce the newFamlySearch Internet program that will come out in a year or two. This is a huge project, linking all the families of the world into one database. It is inspired and unique. Nothing like it has never been done before. Everyone will be able to add to it and correct data they have entered. As soon as information is added, everyone in the world can view it and send an email to the person who submitted it. We will all be able to work together to get this great work done, that we might present to the Lord “...a book containing the records of our dead, which shall be worthy of all acceptation.” D&C 128:24

There are problems with the program right now. The first is that in combining all the records that have ever been submitted to the church, errors that were in the database were carried forward. The computer engineers at the church are working to find a way to eliminate these errors. We are working to fix the errors in the information about our ancestors.

When newFamilySearch.org becomes available please type in information you have on your own children, parents, aunts, cousins and ancestors for whom you have done the original research. I think we will be able to resolve the problems with the John Neffs better if everyone isn’t making changes.

The big problem is that John Neff, the pioneer, has been recorded as having more than one wife. Here is the explanation of the problem.

There are two John Neffs who came to Utah as pioneers. Both must have been wonderful men, but they are not the same man.

Our ancestor John Neff of East Millcreek, was a Mennonite born in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 19 Sep 1794 to John Neff (born 1 Jan 1769 in Strasburg) and Barbara Herr (born 28 Jul 1762 in Strasburg). On 12 Jan 1822 John married Mary Barr born 1 Dec 1801 in Bart Township, Lancaster, Pennsylvania to Christian Barr (born 11 Oct 1765 in Bart Township) and Susanna Brenneman (born 1 Apr 1772 in Donegal, Lancaster, Pennsylvania).

John and Mary have 10 children, 8 came to Salt Lake and raised their families in the LDS church, Amanda died young and Cyrus died in Winter Quarters. When John and Mary arrived in Winter Quarters late in 1846, John bought the flour mill Brigham Young was having built and got it up and running.

When the family went west in 1847, they left their son, Franklin Neff, and his wife, Elizabeth Musser, behind to run the mill. The rest of the family traveled with the Jedediah M. Grant Company and arrived in the Salt Lake Valley, 2 October 1847. The next spring their son, Amos Herr Neff, and his new wife, Martha Ann Dilworth, went back to Winter Quarters to help Franklin and Elizabeth and their new baby girl, Martha Elizabeth Neff, get to Salt Lake. They happened to be in the same company as another John Neff and his family.

John Neff of East Millcreek only ever had one wife, Mary Barr. They lived the rest of their lives in East Millcreek running a flour mill, building and running lumber mills and serving in the church. Their sons kept the mills going after they died. John died 9 May 1869 and is buried in the Salt Lake City Cemetery.

The John Neff who died in Pleasant Grove 5 June 1877 was born in Amsterdam, Montgomery, New York 16 July 1795 to John Neff and Martha Beckwith (who were married in the Dutch Reform Church). This John Neff married Rachel Starr who was born 30 April 1784 in Brookfield, Connecticut to Elijah Starr and Mary Smith. They were married about 1815 in New York and then moved to Illinois where their three daughters were born, Lucy, Lodema and Laura. Rachel died between 1840 and 1846. John had joined the LDS Church before 1840 and in 1846 took the children to Winter Quarters on their way to Utah. There he married Susannah Gazey, 10 October 1847. (Notice Susannah Gazey was married to the other John Neff in Winter Quarters 8 days after our John Neff arrived in Salt Lake.) Susannah and her first husband William Beers had joined the church in England and come to New York and then Nauvoo with their 6 children. William died or left the family.

This is where it gets confusing. John Neff of Pleasant Grove, his daughters, Susannah and her children were in the Brigham Young Company arriving in Salt Lake Valley the 20-24 of September 1848. Franklin Neff, (son of the our John Neff) his wife Elizabeth, their daughter Martha Elizabeth, his brother Amos and his wife Martha Ann were in the company also. On June 8, 1848 Elizabeth wrote to her mother, Anna Bitner “there has been two deths Since the we are here[,] A babe Six weeks old[,] the other was drowned[,] one of John Neffs children[,] A boy Eight years old...” This boy was Susannah’s son, Charles Beers, who died 25 May 1848, in the Elkhorn River.

John and Susannah settled in Pleasant Grove where Susannah served in the Relief Society for several years. They were sealed 11 Oct 1852,

On 9 June 1870 the John Neff of Pleasant Grove went to the Endowment House and
was sealed to his second wife, Susannah Gazey and
Mary Gazey and
Ann Gazey, her sisters, and
Rachel Starr, his first wife and
Mary Lull, daughter of Rachel Starr and her first husband Walter Lull and
his mother Martha Beckwith.

After Susanna died, John went on a mission back East at 80 years old. When he returned John Neff of Pleasant Grove married Susan Roberts on 25 Nov 1874 and they had the John Myron Neff born 26 Mar 1876 in Pleasant Grove. This child died 5 April 1891. John Neff of Pleasant Grove died 6 Jun 1877 in Pleasant Grove and is buried there with his wife and son.

Notice the sealings in 1870, the marriage in 1874 and the birth of John Myron Neff in 1876 are after our John Neff of East Millcreek died in 1869.

Hello! Welcome to the John Neff Family Blog. We would like to begin again to connect all the descendants of John Neff and Mary Barr. John and Mary had 10 children, 7 grew to adulthood and had chilidren - 89 in all. Seventy-two of the grandchildren had children and now the 9th generation are being born and we have almost 10,000 descendants and spouses in our Personal Ancestal File database. We haven't kept it current, however. Please help us update the PAF database and collect addresses, email address and phone numbers for all John and Mary's descendants.
Thank you,
Alice

September 19, 2008

John Neff was born 19 September 1794. Though John could read and write very well, we have no history, diary or journal written by him. We will try to put some of the stories we have found on this blog.

John married Mary Barr, a Mennonite like himself. They had 10 children, Amanda died as a baby. Of the 9 living children the oldest, Barbara Matilda, was 20 when he was baptized. Elizabeth just a baby while the family was learning about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All the children migrated to Utah with their parents and became strong, faithful members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Seven had large families. Amos and Benjamin each had 3 wives. All together John and Mary had 89 grand children, 72 of them had families. The ninth generation of great (+) grandchildren are coming into the world. We have 9435 descendants in our Personal Ancestral File database and 2500 names and addresses many of them are outdated.

Please help us update our PAF database and our address list. Send information to Alice Neff at alice@neff.ws.

Descendants of John Neff Jr and Mary Barr

First Generation

1. John Neff Jr was born on 19 Sep 1794 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 9 May 1869 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 12 May 1869 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

John married Mary Barr daughter of Christian Barr and Susanna Brenneman on 12 Feb 1822 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Mary was born on 1 Dec 1801 in Bart Township, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 1 Dec 1875 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 4 Dec 1875 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

They had the following children:

2 F i. Barbara Matilda Neff was born on 28 Oct 1822 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 29 May 1890 in East Millcreek.
Barbara married Julian Moses on 25 Mar 1845 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Julian was born on 11 Apr 1810.

+3 M ii. Franklin Neff was born on 18 Feb 1824. He died on 17 Nov 1882.

+4 M iii. Amos Herr Neff was born on 20 May 1825. He died on 1 Feb 1914.

5 M iv. Cyrus Neff was born on 16 Jan 1827 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 4 Mar 1847 in Winter Quarters, Omaha Nation, Indian Territory, Nebraska. He was buried on 6 Mar 1847 in Winter Quarters.

+6 F v. Mary Ann Neff was born on 5 Aug 1829. She died on 28 Sep 1866.

+7 F vi. Susanna Neff was born on 26 Mar 1831. She died on 24 Nov 1910.

+8 M vii. Benjamin Barr Neff was born on 6 May 1834. He died on 18 Feb 1883.

9 F viii. Amanda Neff Child was born on 7 Jun 1836 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 26 May 1840 in Strasburg.

+10 M ix. John Neff III was born on 28 Dec 1837. He died on 6 Jan 1918.

+11 F x. Elizabeth Neff was born on 15 Nov 1840. She died on 2 May 1914.

Second Generation

3. Franklin Neff (John) was born on 18 Feb 1824 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 17 Nov 1882 in East Millcreek. He was buried in Nov 1882 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Franklin married (1) Elizabeth Musser daughter of Samuel Musser and Anna Barr on 5 Mar 1846 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Elizabeth was born on 7 Dec 1824 in Bart Township, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 24 Feb 1853 in Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

12 F i. Martha Elizabeth Neff was born on 26 Apr 1848 in Winter Quarters, Omaha Nation, Indian Territory, Nebraska. She died on 12 Feb 1888 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 14 Feb 1888 in Salt Lake City.

Martha married Alanson Eldredge son of Ira Eldredge and Nancy Black on 9 May 1870 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Alanson was born on 5 Dec 1846 in Winter Quarters, Omaha Nation, Indian Territory, Nebraska. He died on 22 Oct 1899 in Coalville, Summit, Utah. He was buried on 25 Oct 1899.

13 F ii. Leticia Neff Child was born on 2 Feb 1853 in Salt Lake City. She died in May 1853.

Franklin married (2) Francis Mariah Stillman daughter of Jason Stillman and Harriet Elizabeth Seymour on 1 Jan 1855 in Salt Lake City. Francis was born on 29 May 1830 in Erie, Otsego, New York. She died on 13 Sep 1903 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 16 Sep 1903 in East Millcreek.

They had the following children:

14 F iii. Frances Maria Neff, a child, was born on 19 Sep 1855 in East Millcreek. She died on 14 Nov 1865.

15 F iv. Mary Minerva Neff was born on 6 Sep 1857 in East Millcreek. She died on 24 Feb 1928 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 27 Feb 1928 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

Mary married James Madison Fisher Jr. son of James Madison Fisher Sir and Edith Eveline Peirce on 26 Dec 1878 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. James was born on 14 Dec 1857 in Calls Fort, Box Elder, Utah. He died on 12 Aug 1925 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 16 Aug 1925 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

16 M v. John Franklin Neff, a child, was born on 7 Aug 1859 in East Millcreek. He died on 29 Dec 1865.

17 F vi. Barbara Matilda Neff was born on 15 Mar 1861 in East Millcreek. She died on 18 Mar 1864.

18 F vii. Rosella Salome Neff was born on 27 May 1863 in East Millcreek. She died on 25 Mar 1951 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 28 Mar 1951 in Salt Lake City.

Rosella married Robert Peirce Fisher son of James Madison Fisher Sr and Edith Eveline Peirce on 10 Jul 1884 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Robert was born on 1 Oct 1859 in East Millcreek. He died on 8 Jun 1948 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 11 Jun 1948 in Salt Lake City.

19 F viii. May Seymour Neff was born on 30 Oct 1866 in East Millcreek. She died on 15 Apr 1943 in Lyman, Madison, Idaho. She was buried on 18 Apr 1943 in Archer Cemetery, Madison, Idaho.

May married (1) Francis Sharp Jr on 7 Jan 1903 in the Salt Lake Temple. Francis was born on 17 Feb 1868 in Smithfield, Cache, Utah. He died on 24 Jan 1952 in Lyman, Madison, Idaho. He was buried in Archer Cemetery, Madison, Idaho.

May married (2) John Mcgregor Wilson on 19 Dec 1888 in the Salt Lake Temple. John was born on 17 Jan 1862 in Salt Lake City. He died on 3 Aug 1901 in Provo, Utah, Utah.

20 F ix. Alice Amelia Neff was born on 23 Nov 1868 in East Millcreek. She died on 6 Nov 1895.

21 M x. Seymour Howard Neff was born on 23 Dec 1870 in East Millcreek. He died on 22 Jun 1941 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 26 Jun 1941 in Salt Lake City.

Seymour married (1) Eudora Irene Fisher daughter of James Madison Fisher Sr and Lydia Ann Ranck on 7 Jun 1899 in The Salt Lake Temple. The marriage ended in divorce. Eudora was born on 13 Oct 1879 in East Millcreek. She died on 4 Mar 1963 in Holladay.

Seymour married (2) Vera Knapton daughter of William Thomas Knapton and Caroline Hannah Page on 3 Sep 1925 in Salt Lake Temple. Vera was born on 17 Dec 1895 in Salt Lake City. She died on 15 Sep 1973 in Brigham City. She was buried on 18 Sep 1973 in Brigham City.

22 F xi. Alfaretta Neff was born on 16 Jan 1873 in East Millcreek. She died on 19 Jan 1943 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. She was buried on 22 Jan 1943 in Brigham City.

Alfaretta married Arta Mclain Seely son of Isaac Joseph Seely and Elizabeth Jane Fisher on 3 May 1899 in Salt Lake Temple. Arta was born on 3 Nov 1874 in East Millcreek. He died on 17 May 1945 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. He was buried on 21 May 1945 in Brigham City.

4. Amos Herr Neff (John) was born on 20 May 1825 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 1 Feb 1914 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 4 Feb 1914 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

Amos married (1) Martha Ann Dilworth daughter of Caleb Dilworth and Eliza Wollerton on 15 Apr 1848 in Old Fort, Salt Lake City. Martha was born on 29 Jan 1827 in Birmingham, Chester, Pennsylvania. She died on 3 May 1862 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 5 May 1862 in Salt Lake City Cemetery, Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

23 F i. Ida Neff was born on 5 Feb 1849 in Savannah, Andrew, Missouri. She died on 8 Jan 1901 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 10 Jan 1901 in Salt Lake Cemetery, Salt Lake City.

Ida married (1) Valoran Russell on 18 Jul 1868 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Valoran was born on 25 Aug 1845 in Nauvoo, Hancock, Illinois. He died on 4 Oct 1889 in East Millcreek. He was buried in the Salt Lake Cemetery, Salt Lake City.
Ida married (2) James Russell son of Isaac Russell and Mary Jones after 1889. James was born on 27 Dec 1848 in Utah. He died on 10 Mar 1929 in Salt Lake City.

24 F ii. Eva Neff was born on 4 Dec 1851 in East Millcreek. She died on 21 Apr 1942 in Midway, Wasatch, Utah. She was buried on 22 Apr 1942 in Midway, Wasatch, Utah.

Eva married David Simpson Huffaker son of Simpson David Huffaker and Elizabeth Melvina Richardson on 18 Jan 1871 in Salt Lake City. David was born on 6 Oct 1847 in Salt Lake City. He died on 12 Mar 1903 in Midway. He was buried in Midway.

25 M iii. Amos Barr Neff was born on 13 Aug 1853 in East Millcreek. He died on 26 Jun 1916 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 29 Jun 1916 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

Amos married Lucy Evaline Seely daughter of Isaac Joseph Seely and Elizabeth Jane Fisher on 21 Dec 1882 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Lucy was born on 7 Mar 1864 in Salt Lake City. She died on 16 Mar 1929 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 20 Mar 1929 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray.

26 M iv. Cyrus Neff was born on 22 Apr 1855 in East Millcreek. He died in 1948. He was buried in Murray Cemetery, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

Cyrus married Grace Ann Boyce daughter of William Boyce and Elizabeth Maxwell on 24 Jul 1876 in Salt Lake City. Grace was born on 17 Mar 1858 in South Cottonwood, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 12 Jun 1930.

27 F v. Martha Ann Neff was born on 8 Aug 1857 in East Millcreek. She died on 28 Jan 1933 in Boise, Ada, Idaho. She was buried in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Martha married Franklin Brenneman Smith son of Jacob Hostetter Smith and Elizabeth Barr on 2 Feb 1889 in Oakland, Alemeda, California. Franklin was born on 24 Sep 1832 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 10 Sep 1894 in Boise, Ada, Idaho. He was buried on 24 Sep 1894 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

28 F vi. Mary Barr Neff was born on 16 May 1859 in East Millcreek. She died on 17 Oct 1942 in Salt Lake City.

Mary married Issac Young son of Joseph Young and Caroline L Hager about 1877 in Salt Lake City. Issac was born on 20 Nov 1850 in Salt Lake City. He died on 17 Jan 1920 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 19 Jan 1920 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

29 M vii. John Dilworth Neff was born on 11 Aug 1861 in East Millcreek. He died on 31 Oct 1910 in East Millcreek.

John married Lillian Smith Evans daughter of Charles Holden Evans and Elizabeth Maria Smith on 19 Nov 1896 in Salt Lake Temple. Lillian was born on 6 Sep 1877 in Salt Lake City. She died on 11 Dec 1953 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California. She was buried in Inglewood Cemetery, Los Angeles, California.

Amos married (2) Catherine Elizabeth Thomas daughter of David Thomas and Mary Davies on 17 Dec 1864 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Catherine was born on 4 Apr 1843 in Killy Bebill Parish, Altween, Glamorganshire, Wales. She died on 12 Mar 1917 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 16 Mar 1917 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

They had the following children:

30 F viii. Harriet Seymour Neff was born on 16 Sep 1865 in East Millcreek. She died on 1 Nov 1928 in East Millcreek. She was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

Harriet married John Mousley Cannon son of Angus Munn Cannon and Sarah Maria Monsley on 3 Nov 1900 in East Millcreek. John was born on 24 Sep 1865 in St George, Washington, Utah. He died on 16 Jun 1917 in East Millcreek.

31 F ix. Amanda Barr Neff was born on 16 Oct 1867 in East Millcreek. She died on 26 Jan 1945 in Cottonwood, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 29 Jan 1945 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

Amanda married Edward Cyrenus Bagley son of Charles Stewart Bagley and Julia Ann Frederika Hansen on 17 Dec 1889 in Logan Temple. Edward was born on 2 Jan 1865 in East Millcreek. He died on 9 Jul 1943 in Cottonwood. He was buried on 11 Jul 1943 in Elysian Burial Gardens.

32 M x. David Neff Twin was born on 13 Jun 1871 in East Millcreek. He died on 10 Dec 1951 in Buhl, Twin Falls, Idaho. He was buried on 15 Dec 1951 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

David married (1) Emma Elizabeth Hobson daughter of George Wright Hobson and Susan Gunn on 18 Jun 1902 in Salt Lake Temple. Emma was born on 26 Nov 1880 in Hoytsville, Summit, Utah. She died on 30 Apr 1903 in Hoytsville. She was buried on 3 May 1903 in Hoytsville, Summit, Utah.

David married (2) Amy Ethel Chamberlin daughter of William Henry Chamberlin and Eliza Frances Brown on 11 Oct 1906 in Salt Lake Temple. Amy was born on 20 Dec 1880 in Salt Lake City. She died on 14 Jan 1954 in Twin Falls, Twin Falls, Idaho. She was buried on 18 Jan 1954 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

33 M xi. Samuel Neff Twin was born on 13 Jun 1871 in East Millcreek. He died on 25 Jul 1968 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 29 Jul 1968 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

Samuel married (1) Zua Brinton daughter of David Branson Brinton and Susan Erepta Huffaker on 6 Sep 1899 in The Salt Lake Temple. Zua was born on 22 May 1878 in Big Cottonwood, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 4 Jun 1940 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 6 Jun 1940 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

Samuel married (2) Annie Redd daughter of Lemuel Hardison Redd Jr and Lucy Zina Lyman on 15 Jul 1942 in Logan Temple, Logan, Cache, Utah. Annie was born on 9 Mar 1893 in Bluff, San Juan, Utah. She died on 21 Aug 1977 in St George, Washington, Utah. She was buried on 24 Aug 1977 in St George City Cemetery, St George, Washington, Utah.

34 F xii. Catherine Alberta Neff was born on 1 Oct 1873 in East Millcreek. She died on 2 Nov 1876 in East Millcreek.

35 F xiii. Aldus Dilworth Neff was born on 16 Jul 1875 in East Millcreek. She died on 4 Nov 1876 in East Millcreek.

36 F xiv. Alice May Neff was born on 18 May 1877 in East Millcreek. She died on 13 Sep 1964 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 17 Sep 1964 in Salt Lake City.

Alice married Frank Young Taylor son of John Ammon Taylor and Margaret Young on 3 Nov 1900 in Salt Lake City. Frank was born on 4 Nov 1861 in Salt Lake City. He died on 19 Mar 1953 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 21 Mar 1953 in Salt Lake City.

Amos married (3) Eliza Anne Hughes daughter of William Hughes and Hannah Crook on 6 Dec 1875 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Eliza was born on 5 Nov 1854 in Cheltenham, Gloucester, England. She died on 11 Jan 1915 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 14 Jan 1915 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.

They had the following children:

37 M xv. William Leroy Neff was born on 12 Nov 1876 in East Millcreek. He died on 15 May 1880 in Salt Lake City.

38 M xvi. Frank Herr Neff was born on 11 Nov 1878 in East Millcreek. He died on 25 Oct 1953.

39 F xvii. Anne Loretta Neff was born on 10 Feb 1881 in East Millcreek. She died on 11 Nov 1957 in Sandy, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 14 Nov 1957 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

Anne married Enoch Brown son of John Brown and Esther Sargent on 30 Aug 1911 in the Salt Lake Temple. Enoch was born on 13 Apr 1885 in Hoytsville, Summit, Utah. He died on 14 Aug 1976.

40 M xviii. Eugene Jefferson Neff was born on 29 Mar 1883 in East Millcreek. He was christened on 5 Jul 1883 in East Millcreek. He died on 6 May 1957 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 9 May 1957 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

Eugene married Ivy Louise Chamberlin on 10 Nov 1910 in the Salt Lake Temple. Ivy was born on 27 Jun 1890 in Salt Lake City. She died on 18 Jul 1976 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 21 Jul 1976 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

41 F xix. Catherine Barr Neff was born on 21 May 1885 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 3 Sep 1885 in East Millcreek. She died on 17 Mar 1972 in Sandy. She was buried on 20 Mar 1972 in Sandy City Cemetery.

Catherine married Victor Emanuel Mumford son of Gideon Moore Mumford and Martha Eleanor Crump on 1 Jun 1910 in the Salt Lake Temple. Victor was born on 26 Nov 1885 in Big Cottonwood. He died on 25 Sep 1973 in Murray. He was buried on 29 Sep 1973 in Sandy City Cemetery.

42 M xx. Albert Hughes Neff was born on 21 May 1890 in East Millcreek. He died on 9 Dec 1909.

43 M xxi. Julian Neff was born on 22 Mar 1893 in East Millcreek. He died on 5 Aug 1953 in Manila, Daggett, Utah. He was buried on 8 Aug 1953 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

Julian married Nina Spencer daughter of Albert Spencer and Delia Benedict Neff on 11 Oct 1918 in the Salt Lake Temple. Nina was born on 18 Jun 1895 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 31 Mar 1982 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 3 Apr 1982 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

6. Mary Ann Neff (John) was born on 5 Aug 1829 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 28 Sep 1866 in Salt Lake City. She was buried in Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Mary married Orrin Porter Rockwell son of Orrin Rockwell and Sarah Witt on 3 May 1854. Orrin was born on 8 Jun 1813 in Belchertown, Hampshire, Massachusetts. He died on 9 Jun 1878 in Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

44 F i. Talitha Rockwell was born in 1848. She died on 17 Sep 1869 in Salt Lake City.

45 M ii. William Rockwell was born in 1852. He died on 9 Sep 1872 in Salt Lake City.

46 F iii. Mary Amanda Rockwell was born on 11 Mar 1855 in Salt Lake City. She died on 7 Apr 1926.

Mary married David Reid Judge son of Peter Reid and Diana Davidson. David was born on 13 Jan 1859 in Salt Lake City. He died on 19 Apr 1923 in Magna, Salt Lake, Utah.

47 F iv. Sarah Naomi Rockwell was born on 5 Aug 1856 in Salt Lake City. She died on 5 Oct 1934.

Sarah married Edson Merrit Stowell son of Edson M. Stowell and Fanny Maria Atwood. Edson was born on 10 Apr 1876 in Salt Lake City. He died on 3 Nov 1930.

48 M v. John Orrin Rockwell Single was born on 23 Oct 1858 in Salt Lake City. He died on 28 Feb 1917.

49 M vi. David Porter Rockwell was born on 19 Feb 1860 in Salt Lake City. He died on 29 Aug 1908 in Faust Creek, Tooele, Utah.

David married Elizabeth Cook daughter of David Patterson Cook and Elizabeth Hunter on 19 Mar 1890 in Tooele, Tooele, Utah. Elizabeth was born on 19 Feb 1864 in Salt Lake City. She died on 11 Dec 1939.

50 M vii. Forrest Neff Rockwell was born on 19 Dec 1862 in Salt Lake City. He died on 23 Jan 1864 in Salt Lake City.

51 F viii. Letitia Barr Rockwell was born on 28 Aug 1864 in Salt Lake City. She died on 1 Jul 1945 in Sparks, Washoe, Nevada.

Letitia married Andrew Jackson Stevens in Salt Lake City. Andrew was born on 2 Mar 1857 in Salt Lake City. He died on 9 May 1938 in Glendale, Los Angeles, California.

52 M ix. Joseph Neff Rockwell was born on 24 Aug 1866 in Salt Lake City. He died on 10 Oct 1866 in Salt Lake City.

7. Susanna Neff (John) was born on 26 Mar 1831 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 24 Nov 1910 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.

Susanna married (1) Eli Harvey Peirce on 21 Nov 1850 in Salt Lake City. Eli was born on 29 Jul 1827 in Chester Co, Pennsylvania. He died on 12 Aug 1858.

They had the following children:

53 M i. Eli Harvey Peirce Jr was born on 27 Sep 1851 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. He died on 11 Feb 1915 in Salt Lake City.

Eli married (1) Henrietta Madsen on 20 Jun 1888 in Logan, Cache, Utah. Henrietta was born on 13 Dec 1863 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. She died on 5 Dec 1942 in Salt Lake City. She was buried in Salt Lake City.

Eli married (2) Lydia May Snow . Lydia was born on 21 Jan 1860 in Salt Lake City. She died on 22 Dec 1899 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.
Eli married (3) Daisy Belle Smith . Daisy was born on 28 Jan 1881 in Salt Lake City.

54 F ii. Mary Barr Peirce was born on 21 Sep 1853 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. She died in May 1917.

Mary married Oliver Goddard Snow . Oliver was born on 20 Feb 1849 in Salt Lake City.

55 M iii. Leonidas Thomas Peirce was born on 21 Jun 1855 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.

Leonidas married Eugenia Snow . Eugenia was born on 5 Jul 1856 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.

56 F iv. Susannah Octavia Peirce was born on 27 Mar 1857 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. She died on 5 Dec 1929 in Mendon, Cache, Utah.

Susannah married Joseph Henry Hardman son of Joseph Hardman and Nancy Boothe on 6 Nov 1879 in Salt Lake City. Joseph was born on 25 Nov 1856 in Salt Lake City. He died on 16 Mar 1926 in Mendon, Cache, Utah. He was buried on 19 Mar 1926 in Mendon, Cache, Utah.

Susanna married (2) Willis Henry Boothe on 8 Mar 1860 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. Willis was born on 3 Feb 1834 in Okibbeha Co, Mississippi. He died on 8 Feb 1897.

They had the following children:

57 F v. Amanda Viola Boothe was born on 17 Oct 1860 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. She died on 2 Feb 1933 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.
She was buried on 5 Feb 1933 in Brigham City.

Amanda married Evan J. Morgan son of David Morgan and Mary Jones on 8 Mar 1883 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Evan was born on 2 Jan 1858 in Killebybill, Glamorgan, South Wales. He died on 5 Dec 1934 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 8 Dec 1934 in Brigham City.

58 F vi. Olive Matilda Boothe was born on 27 Apr 1862 in Brigham City.
Olive married (1) William D Johnson.
Olive married (2) Allen Marshal.

59 M vii. Willis Henry Boothe was born on 15 Sep 1864 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah.

Willis married Sarah Rich daughter of John T. Rich and Agnes Young. Sarah was born on 13 Dec 1873 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California.

60 M viii. John Neff Boothe was born on 6 Mar 1866 in Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah. He died on 5 Jul 1934 in Weston, Franklin, Idaho. He was buried on 8 Jul 1934.

John married (1) Fannie Priscilla Wilde on 3 Mar 1898 in Coalville, Summit, Utah. Fannie was born on 3 May 1874 in Coalville. She died on 2 Jul 1906 in Brigham City, Box Elder. She was buried on 5 Jul 1906 in Coalville.

John married (2) Mary Maria Norton on 9 Dec 1908.

61 M ix. Benjamin Franklin Boothe was born on 15 Sep 1868 in Brigham City.
Benjamin married Louisa Minerva Stark daughter of Paul Stark. The marriage ended in divorce. Louisa was born in 1868.

62 M x. Morris Artemis Boothe was born on 26 Feb 1872 in Brigham City.
Morris married Jennie Alvord . Jennie was born on 20 Mar 1876 in Brigham City.

8. Benjamin Barr Neff (John) was born on 6 May 1834 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 18 Feb 1883 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried in the Draper Memorial Cemetery, Draper, Salt Lake, Utah.

Benjamin married (1) Martha Ann Bitner daughter of Abraham Bitner and Anna Barr on 26 Feb 1858 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Martha was born on 13 Nov 1840 in Near Quincy, Adams, Illinois. She died on 24 Jul 1868 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah.

Benjamin and Martha had the following children:

63 F i. Martha Louise Bitner Neff was born on 22 May 1859 in East Millcreek. She died on 8 Feb 1883 in Draper, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried in Draper.

Martha married Isaac John Dunyon son of John Louis Dunyon Dr and Ann Kempton Brown on 12 Jan 1882 in Salt Lake City. Isaac was born on 28 Feb 1859 in Salt Lake City. He died on 1 Jan 1928.

64 F ii. Anna Bitner Neff was born on 2 Oct 1861 in East Millcreek. She died on 18 Feb 1865 in East Millcreek.

65 M iii. Benjamin Barr Neff Jr. was born on 2 Nov 1862 in East Millcreek. He died on 13 Feb 1935 in Sandy, Salt Lake, Utah.

Benjamin married Ida Fidelia Jenkins daughter of George Washington Jenkins and Rebecca Ann Roberts on 5 Jan 1891 in Sandy, Salt Lake, Utah. Ida was born on 15 Jan 1862 in Farmington, Van Buren, Iowa. She died in Dec 1938 in Salt Lake City.

66 M iv. John Brenneman Bitner Neff was born on 24 Sep 1864 in East Millcreek. He died on 15 Oct 1948 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 19 Oct 1948 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah.

John married Phebe Elizabeth Hardcastle daughter of William Hardcastle and Rosebell Elizabeth Ellen Fletcher in Jun 1894 in Sandy, Salt Lake, Utah. Phebe was born on 23 Feb 1869 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania. She died on 16 Feb 1926 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 19 Feb 1926 in Crescent Cemetery, Sandy, Salt Lake, Utah.

67 F v. Mary Elizabeth Bitner Neff was born on 11 Jun 1866 in East Millcreek. She died on 22 Nov 1891 in Salt Lake City.

Mary married Hubert Lester Hall son of Isaac Clark Hall and Susanna Ryder on 19 Oct 1887 in Utah. Hubert was born on 22 Feb 1863 in Winthrop, Suffolk, Massachusetts. He died on 26 May 1930 in Santa Monica, Los Angeles, California.

Benjamin married (2) Mary Ellen Love daughter of Andrew Love and Nancy Maria Bigelow on 7 Oct 1870 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Mary was born on 18 Apr 1850 in Salt Lake City. She died on 10 May 1942 in Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

68 F vi. Henrietta Love Neff was born on 20 Dec 1875 in Provo, Utah, Utah. She died on 13 May 1945 in Provo. She was buried on 16 May 1945 in Provo.
Henrietta married Edwin Hezekiah Smart son of Hezekiah Baylis Smart and Elizabeth Clark Winsor on 25 Jun 1902 in The Salt Lake Temple. Edwin was born on 25 May 1874 in Provo, Utah, Utah. He died on 24 May 1920 in Provo. He was buried on 24 May 1920 in Provo.

69 M vii. Andrew Love Neff Dr. was born on 17 Feb 1878 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He died on 7 Nov 1936 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 12 Nov 1936 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

Andrew married Loretta Fernelin Snow daughter of Joseph Smith Snow and Lucy Ellen Van Buren on 5 Sep 1906 in Manti, Sanpete, Utah. Loretta was born on 27 Jan 1880 in Manti. She died on 18 Mar 1964 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 21 Mar 1964 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

70 M viii. Son Neff was born on 5 Aug 1881. He died on 5 Aug 1881.

71 F ix. Lillian Estelle Love Neff was born on 7 Aug 1871 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 23 Mar 1954.

Lillian married Richard Elmer Caldwell son of Isaac James Caldwell and Elizabeth A. Russell. Richard was born on 27 Sep 1874 in Tooele, Tooele, Utah.

72 F x. Nancy Maria Neff was born on 17 Feb 1873 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 15 Dec 1939.

Benjamin married (3) Maria Mary Ann Bowthorpe daughter of William Bowthorpe and Mary Ann Tuttle on 7 Oct 1870 in Salt Lake City. Maria was born on 6 May 1843 in Norwich, Norfolk, England. She died on 13 Mar 1925 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

73 F xi. Virtue Leonora Neff was born on 28 Feb 1872 in Dry Creek, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 3 Aug 1921 in Holladay. She was buried on 5 Aug 1921 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Virtue married Hyrum Neilson son of Carl C. Neilson and Marie Jensen on 11 Jan 1893 in Logan Temple. Hyrum was born on 12 Feb 1869 in Holladay. He died on 6 Sep 1957 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 10 Sep 1957 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

74 F xii. Deseret Charlotte Neff was born on 22 Sep 1878 in Draper, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 7 Dec 1965 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 12 Dec 1965 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah.
Deseret married Andreas (Andrew) Gulbransen son of Ole Gulbransen and Anna Marie Olsen on 18 Jun 1901. Andreas was born on 11 Jul 1879 in Fredrikstad, Ostfld, Norway. He died on 10 Aug 1963 in Salt Lake City.

75 M xiii. William Cyrus Neff was born on 22 Dec 1873 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He died on 13 Dec 1918 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 17 Dec 1918 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
William married Caroline Henrichsen daughter of Soren Peter Henricksen and Christine Gyllenskog on 1 Oct 1902 in The Salt Lake Temple. Caroline was born on 12 Nov 1874 in Big Cottonwood, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 1 Jan 1947 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 4 Jan 1947 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

76 M xiv. Franklin Tuttle Neff was born on 4 Sep 1876 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. He died on 28 Jun 1958 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 1 Jul 1958 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Franklin married Sienora Matilda Petersen daughter of Peter Julius Petersen and Hulda Olivia Woll on 2 Nov 1904 in Salt Lake City. Sienora was born on 10 Aug 1884 in Moroni, Sanpete, Utah. She was christened on 13 Aug 1884 in Moroni. She died on 4 Aug 1978 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 7 Aug 1978 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

77 F xv. Maria Pearl Bowthorpe Neff was born on 27 Apr 1880 in Crescent, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 30 Apr 1960 in Salt Lake City. She was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Maria married Jacob Petersen son of Neils Petersen and Eliza J. Jacobsen on 19 Dec 1906 in the Salt Lake Temple. Jacob was born on 20 Oct 1876 in Parleys Park, Summit, Utah. He died on 14 Nov 1953 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

10. John Neff III (John) was born on 28 Dec 1837 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He died on 6 Jan 1918 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 9 Jan 1918 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
John married Ann Eliza Benedict daughter of Joshua Northrup Benedict and Fidelia Moses on 31 Jan 1863 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Ann was born on 8 Feb 1845 in Canaan, Litchfield, Connecticut. She died on 8 Nov 1930 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 10 Nov 1930 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

They had the following children:

78 F i. Delia Benedict Neff was born on 16 Apr 1864 in East Millcreek. She died on 17 May 1942 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 20 May 1942 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Delia married Albert Spencer son of George Mitton Spencer and Angeline Roberts Bennion on 10 Jul 1889 in Logan Temple. Albert was born on 19 Aug 1866 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah. He was christened on 17 Sep 1866 in Taylorsville. He died on 4 Oct 1898 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 5 Oct 1898 in Salt Lake Cemetery, Salt Lake City.

79 F ii. Marian Barr Neff was born on 10 Jul 1866 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 6 Oct 1866 in East Millcreek. She died on 14 Jan 1933 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 17 Jan 1933 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.
Marian married Charles Franklin Stillman son of Charles Truman Stillman and Elizabeth Neff on 24 Dec 1890 in Logan Temple, Logan, Cache, Utah. Charles was born on 26 Sep 1865 in East Millcreek. He died on 19 Dec 1924 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 21 Dec 1924 in Salt Lake City.

80 F iii. Mary Bitner Neff was born on 10 Jul 1866 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 6 Oct 1866. She died on 1 Aug 1937 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 3 Aug 1937 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Mary married Samuel Augustus Cornwall son of Joseph Cornwall and Charlotte Carter on 21 Jun 1893 in Logan Temple. Samuel was born on 18 Jan 1866 in Millcreek, Salt Lake, Utah. He died on 29 Apr 1961 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 2 May 1961 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

81 F iv. Ruth Irene Neff, a child, was born on 14 Jan 1869 in East Millcreek. She died on 26 Oct 1869 in East Millcreek. She was buried in Salt Lake Cemetery.

82 F v. Frances Emeline Neff was born on 31 Mar 1872 in East Millcreek. She died on 21 Jan 1926 in East Millcreek. She was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Frances married James Osborn Smith son of Absalom Wamsley Smith and Louisa Osborne on 23 Dec 1897 in The Salt Lake Temple. James was born on 12 Sep 1868 in Draper, Salt Lake, Utah. He was christened on 6 Nov 1868. He died on 28 Oct 1961 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 31 Oct 1961 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

83 F vi. Esther Eliza Neff was born on 29 Sep 1874 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 15 Jan 1875 in East Millcreek. She died on 27 Jun 1947 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 1 Jul 1947 in Salt Lake Cemetery.
Esther married Peter Mathew Hixson son of James Monroe Hixson and Margaret E. Ranck on 2 Jan 1901 in the Salt Lake Temple. Peter was born on 7 Sep 1871 in Wanship, Summit, Utah. He was christened in Nov 1871. He died on 18 May 1950 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 21 May 1950 in Salt Lake Cemetery.

84 F vii. Lilian Edna Neff was born on 22 Mar 1877 in East Millcreek. She died on 2 Sep 1878 in East Millcreek. She was buried in Salt Lake Cemetery.

85 F viii. Susan Eugenia Neff was born on 31 Aug 1882 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 7 Jun 1883. She died on 7 Dec 1943 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 10 Dec 1943 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.
Susan married Jeremiah Stokes III son of Jeremiah Stokes and Josephine Olsen on 10 Nov 1904 in the Salt Lake Temple. Jeremiah was born on 23 Nov 1877 in Draper, Salt Lake. He died on 31 Oct 1954 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois. He was buried on 4 Nov 1954 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.
86 F ix. Laurance Elaine Neff was born on 21 May 1886 in East Millcreek. She died on 8 Feb 1961 in Salt Lake City. She was buried on 11 Feb 1961 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.
Laurance married Lewis Loraine Bagley son of John Allen Bagley and Sarah Ellen Lawson on 16 Jun 1909 in The Salt Lake Temple. Lewis was born on 7 May 1884 in Montpelier, Bear Lake, Idaho. He died on 12 Jan 1960 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California. He was buried on 18 Jan 1960 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

11. Elizabeth Neff (John) was born on 15 Nov 1840 in Strasburg, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. She died on 2 May 1914 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 5 May 1914 in Salt Lake City Cemetery.
Elizabeth married Charles Truman Stillman son of Jason Stillman and Harriet Elizabeth Seymour on 14 Jan 1858 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Charles was born on 1 Jun 1834 in Norfolk, Litchfield, Connecticut. He died on 16 Jul 1905 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 20 Jul 1905 in Salt Lake Cemetery.

They had the following children:

87 F i. Mary Elizabeth Stillman was born on 23 Oct 1858 in East Millcreek. She died on 4 Jun 1949 in Salt Lake City.
Mary married Moses Ross Porter son of William Porter and Katherine Pollock on 24 Oct 1878 in Salt Lake City. Moses was born on 21 Jul 1843 in Higginsport, Brown, Ohio. He died on 20 Oct 1932 in Salt Lake City.

88 M ii. John Neff Stillman was born on 21 Mar 1860 in East Millcreek. He died on 22 Nov 1865.

89 F iii. Harriet Seymour Stillman was born on 22 Nov 1861 in East Millcreek. She died on 27 Jan 1929 in Granger, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 31 Jan 1929 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah.
Harriet married Eli Uriah Curtis son of Eli Curtis and Sarah Ann Barnet on 8 Dec 1881 in the Endowment House, Salt Lake City. Eli was born on 1 Jul 1854 in Springville, Utah, Utah. He died on 6 Oct 1908 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah. He was buried on 9 Oct 1908 in Taylorsville, Salt Lake, Utah.

90 F iv. Delia Barr Stillman was born on 20 Sep 1863 in East Millcreek. She died on 14 Oct 1912 in Holladay, Salt Lake, Utah. She was buried on 17 Oct 1912 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.
Delia married John Birch Fagg on 17 Jan 1888 in Salt Lake City. John was born on 5 Apr 1849 in Lyminge, Elham, Kent, England. He died on 27 May 1923 in Salt Lake City.

91 M v. Charles Franklin Stillman was born on 26 Sep 1865 in East Millcreek. He died on 19 Dec 1924 in East Millcreek. He was buried on 21 Dec 1924 in Salt Lake City.
Charles married Marian Barr Neff daughter of John Neff III and Ann Eliza Benedict on 24 Dec 1890 in Logan Temple. Marian was born on 10 Jul 1866 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 6 Oct 1866 in East Millcreek. She died on 14 Jan 1933 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 17 Jan 1933 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

92 M vi. Samuel Seymour Stillman was born on 13 Jun 1867 in East Millcreek. He died on 22 May 1933.
Samuel married Salina Osguthorpe daughter of John Osguthorpe and Lydia Roper. Salina was born on 11 Aug 1869 in East Millcreek.

93 M vii. Forest Neff Stillman was born on 27 Sep 1869 in East Millcreek. He died on 25 Feb 1920 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 29 Feb 1920 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Forest married Alvina Elizabeth Ellis daughter of Thomas Ellis and Elizabeth on 20 Feb 1907 in Salt Lake City. Alvina was born on 20 Jun 1878 in Millcreek, Salt Lake, Utah. She died on 2 Jul 1945 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 5 Jul 1945 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.

94 F viii. Frances Minerva Stillman was born on 30 Jun 1871 in East Millcreek. She died on 5 Nov 1945 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 7 Nov 1945 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.
Frances married Andrew Hansen Bagley son of Charles Stewart Bagley and Julia Ann Frederika Hansen on 10 Apr 1901 in Granger, Salt Lake, Utah. Andrew was born on 28 Apr 1867 in East Millcreek. He died on 28 Nov 1931 in East Millcreek. He was buried about 1 Dec 1931 in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park, Salt Lake City.

95 M ix. Cyrus Neff Stillman was born on 30 May 1873 in East Millcreek. He died on 25 Dec 1919 in Richfield, Sevier, Utah. He was buried on 28 Dec 1919 in Richfield, Sevier, Utah.
Cyrus married Elise Roethlisberger daughter of Johannes Roethlisberger and Katherine Zercher. Elise was born on 5 Nov 1877 in Langnau, Bern, Switzerland.

96 F x. Letitia Barr Stillman was born on 3 Apr 1875 in East Millcreek. She died on 13 Sep 1903 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 15 Sep 1903 in Elysian Burial Gardens, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah.
Letitia married Joseph Henry Moss son of Thomas Moss and Fanny Goodman on 19 Jul 1900 in Logan Temple, Logan, Cache, Utah. Joseph was born on 27 Feb 1879 in Koosharem, Sevier, Utah. He was christened on 1 Mar 1879 in Koosharem, Sevier, Utah. He died on 9 Mar 1951 in Salt Lake City. He was buried on 13 Mar 1951 in Salt Lake City.

97 M xi. Brigham Jason Stillman was born on 11 May 1877 in East Millcreek. He died on 10 Nov 1931.
Brigham married Lizzie Hazel Saxton daughter of John Solomon Saxton and Amelia Andrea Johansen on 2 Mar 1915. Lizzie was born on 28 Nov 1892 in Upton, Summit, Utah.

98 F xii. Barbara Matilda Stillman was born on 3 Apr 1879 in East Millcreek. She was christened on 26 Oct 1879 in East Millcreek. She died on 23 Dec 1939 in East Millcreek. She was buried on 27 Dec 1939 in Salt Lake City.
Barbara married George Francis Taylor son of John Ammon Taylor and Maren Johanne Poulsen on 12 Oct 1911 in the Salt Lake Temple. George was born on 24 Apr 1874 in Plain City, Weber, Utah. He died on 16 May 1945 in Ogden. He was buried on 19 May 1945 in Sunset Lawn Memorial Park.

99 M xiii. Joseph Julian Stillman was born on 12 Jan 1881 in Salt Lake City. He was christened on 24 Apr 1881 in Salt Lake City. He died on 28 Nov 1950 in Salt Lake City. He was buried in Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park.
Joseph married Emma Osguthorpe daughter of John Henry Osguthorpe and Mary Magdalene Garn on 1 Jan 1909 in Granger, Salt Lake, Utah. Emma was born on 15 Oct 1885 in Salt Lake City. She died on 5 Mar 1971.

100 F xiv. Susanna Ethel Stillman was born on 21 Apr 1883 in Salt Lake City. She died on 29 Oct 1934 in Salt Lake City. She was buried in Salt Lake City.
Susanna married Henry Albert Wagstaff son of William Wagstaff and Jane Elizabeth Radford on 10 Jun 1908 in the Salt Lake Temple. Henry was born on 31 Oct 1879 in Salt Lake City. He died on 29 Apr 1956 in Salt Lake City.